Dragoni 2009
Вметнување албански јазик во статиите уреди
Здраво корисник:Dragoni 2009, и добредојде на Википедија на македонски јазик. Блокиран си на 2 часа, да размислиш малку за грешката што ја правиш со вметнувањето на албански јазик во статиите за македонски топоними. На пример, корисно би било доколку на Википедија на албански јазик за македонските топоними го вметнеш оригиналниот македонски изговор на населените места, како на пример во статијата за Општина Сарај: Komuna e Sarajit, треба во заграда да стои: (македонски јазик: Општина Сарај), и така натаму. На Википедија на македонски јазик албански изговор на населени места ги има на местата кои се наоѓаат во Албанија, (пример: Шиштавец, и други). Поздрав - Виолетова (разговор) 18:32, 30 август 2023 (CEST)
- (Macedonian Translate) Јас го претворам албанскиот јазик во местата на албанското малцинство, ова што го правите е кршење на албанскиот јазик и албанскиот народ, ве молам дозволете ми да го ставам албанскиот јазик во местата на албанското малцинство. Почит
- I am making the Albanian language in the places of the Albanian minority, what you are doing is violating the Albanian language and the Albanian people, please allow me to put the Albanian language in the places of the Albanian minority. Respect Dragoni 2009 (разговор) 18:44, 30 август 2023 (CEST)
- No, you are vandalising the articles. There is Albanian Language Wikipedia for everyone who wants to read articles and names in Albanian Language. This is Macedonian Language Wikipedia. Please respect that. - Виолетова (разговор) 18:48, 30 август 2023 (CEST)
- As in the Albanian language for example (Komuna e Sarajit/Општина Сарај) it should also be in the Macedonian but in that Macedonian page needs to be Macedonian first, what you are doing is expressing your nationalism and doing propaganda against the Albanian people like the Albanians doesnt exist in the Republic of North Macedonia for example: page of the Republic of North Macedonia in the Macedonian language
- does not recognize Albanians in the North Macedonia and does not show that Albanian is an official language in the Republic of North Macedonia. Respect Dragoni 2009 (разговор) 19:05, 30 август 2023 (CEST)
- No, you are vandalising the articles. There is Albanian Language Wikipedia for everyone who wants to read articles and names in Albanian Language. This is Macedonian Language Wikipedia. Please respect that. - Виолетова (разговор) 18:48, 30 август 2023 (CEST)
User:Dragoni 2009, you are mixing some disinformation in your writing here. According to the law, official language in the Republic of North Macedonia is Macedonian Language in the whole territory, with its cyrilic letters. In the municipalities where 20% of the citizens are from other language group, official for that municipality is Macedonian Language plus that other language (Albanian, Serbian, Aromani, Roma...). English Language Wikipedia has a lot of vandalisam on Macedonian articles. I am not willing to edit there and fight for correcting mistakes. (as it is mistake to say that Official languages in the Republic of North Macedonia are Macedonian and Albanian together.) Other thing is that all Wikipedias are language Wikipedias not states property. Albanians who live in North Macedonia are not active on Macedonian Language Wikipedia, but on Albanian Language Wikipedia. I hope that I make this issue clearer? Regards - Виолетова (разговор) 19:20, 30 август 2023 (CEST)
- You are saying that the Albanian language is only a minority in the Republic of North Macedonia, since you are saying that the Albanian language is a minority, I have a question, Which language is a minority and is spoken in the government of the Republic of North Macedonia? the answer is nobody, according to you, you are saying that the Albanian language is a minority, how is it possible to be a minority and to be able to speak this language in the government, yes, maybe the Albanian language is not the first in the Republic of Macedonia, but the second is the Albanian language after the Macedonian language maybe not official like the Macedonian language, but it is co-official, even though the Albanian language is spoken only in the municipalities, cities with more than 20% Albanians, those cities with more than 20% Albanians should have their Albanian names in Macedonian Wikepedia. With this. I just realized that Wikipedia in the Macedonian language is only a propagandastic or albanophobic page, You are denying the reality. Thank you for your understanding Dragoni 2009 (разговор) 19:41, 30 август 2023 (CEST)
- how is it possible to be a minority and to be able to speak this language in the government - Albanians politicians are speaking Albanian Language sometimes in the officials halls (government, assembly, etc.) and it is always translated into Macedonian Language. Always. And there is no propaganda or phobia in that part. I don't know which part you do not understand about language Wikipedia? This is Wikipedia for Macedonian Language speakers. Albanians who live in Macedonia are using Albanian Language Wikipedia, not this Wikipedia. Regards, - Виолетова (разговор) 19:54, 30 август 2023 (CEST)
- You most likely need to be with the anti-Albanian party called VMRO-DPMNE, the first point I saw that, the second point you deny the Albanian language as you said "It always translated in Macedonian. Always" it is clear that you are against the Albanian language, and there is nothing illegal here if the Albanian language is spoken at administrative levels because the state and the government accepts the Albanian language, you who are not accepting it, we do not care "Albanians who live dont use Macedonian page they use Albanian one” Yes, this is true, but this does not change the fact that when they want to find something on Wikepedia, the first thing that comes up automatically is in the Macedonian language, then in English, they need to search for the page so that Wikepedia comes up in Albanian and what you are saying is not important at all because according to you you are saying Albanians do not see our page on Wikepedia, we can write whatever propaganda we want because Albanians do not see it "And there is no propaganda or phobia" - No there are a lot of propaganda, you make Macedonians believe that Albanians have nothing in Macedonia, and on in the other side, you make them happy, but this cant distorts the reality. Thanks for the hate Dragoni 2009 (разговор) 20:20, 30 август 2023 (CEST)
- Dragoni 2009, do not accuse colleagues with no kind of proof provided, the Macedonian wikipedia has continued to use the macedonian names since thats what has been written in the constituion in the republic of Macedonia, in it states that Macedonian is the offical language, but anywhere with a 20% albanian population makes it a minority recognized language in said region but not offical in the region, only recognized. I advise you do not accuse people and instead be more neutral and co-operative, if you continue to fail to co-operate and continue to accuse people with no proof you will be reported to the administration boards. Gurther (разговор) 21:34, 30 август 2023 (CEST)
- “No proof” go watch tv and come back into reality dont waste time writing propagandas ig Dragoni 2009 (разговор) 22:59, 30 август 2023 (CEST)
- Dragoni 2009, do not accuse colleagues with no kind of proof provided, the Macedonian wikipedia has continued to use the macedonian names since thats what has been written in the constituion in the republic of Macedonia, in it states that Macedonian is the offical language, but anywhere with a 20% albanian population makes it a minority recognized language in said region but not offical in the region, only recognized. I advise you do not accuse people and instead be more neutral and co-operative, if you continue to fail to co-operate and continue to accuse people with no proof you will be reported to the administration boards. Gurther (разговор) 21:34, 30 август 2023 (CEST)
- You most likely need to be with the anti-Albanian party called VMRO-DPMNE, the first point I saw that, the second point you deny the Albanian language as you said "It always translated in Macedonian. Always" it is clear that you are against the Albanian language, and there is nothing illegal here if the Albanian language is spoken at administrative levels because the state and the government accepts the Albanian language, you who are not accepting it, we do not care "Albanians who live dont use Macedonian page they use Albanian one” Yes, this is true, but this does not change the fact that when they want to find something on Wikepedia, the first thing that comes up automatically is in the Macedonian language, then in English, they need to search for the page so that Wikepedia comes up in Albanian and what you are saying is not important at all because according to you you are saying Albanians do not see our page on Wikepedia, we can write whatever propaganda we want because Albanians do not see it "And there is no propaganda or phobia" - No there are a lot of propaganda, you make Macedonians believe that Albanians have nothing in Macedonia, and on in the other side, you make them happy, but this cant distorts the reality. Thanks for the hate Dragoni 2009 (разговор) 20:20, 30 август 2023 (CEST)
- how is it possible to be a minority and to be able to speak this language in the government - Albanians politicians are speaking Albanian Language sometimes in the officials halls (government, assembly, etc.) and it is always translated into Macedonian Language. Always. And there is no propaganda or phobia in that part. I don't know which part you do not understand about language Wikipedia? This is Wikipedia for Macedonian Language speakers. Albanians who live in Macedonia are using Albanian Language Wikipedia, not this Wikipedia. Regards, - Виолетова (разговор) 19:54, 30 август 2023 (CEST)